Bryston BP17 Cubed preamplifier

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. Read 63043 times.

CanadianMaestro

  • Restricted
  • Posts: 1760
  • Skepticism is the engine of progress
    • Hearing Everything That Nothing Can Measure
Bryston BP17 Cubed preamplifier
« on: 1 Aug 2017, 11:10 am »
Hi James,

Will the DAC inside the new BP17-cubed (if ordered with a DAC) be similar to that inside the BDA-1?

It's about time balanced inputs were added!  :thumb:

Pete

James Tanner

  • Facilitator
  • Posts: 20665
  • The Demo is Everything!
    • http://www.bryston.com
Re: Bryston BP17 Cubed preamplifier
« Reply #1 on: 1 Aug 2017, 11:14 am »
Hi James,

Will the DAC inside the new BP17-cubed (if ordered with a DAC) be similar to that inside the BDA-1?

It's about time balanced inputs were added!  :thumb:

Pete

No the DAC in the 17 is limited to 96/24

James

Grant Hill

  • Jr. Member
  • Posts: 296
Re: Bryston BP17 Cubed preamplifier
« Reply #2 on: 2 Aug 2017, 04:23 pm »
Hello James,

what is now the top preamp in production? the new BP17 cubed or the BP26 with ext. power supply?

cheers

James Tanner

  • Facilitator
  • Posts: 20665
  • The Demo is Everything!
    • http://www.bryston.com
Re: Bryston BP17 Cubed preamplifier
« Reply #3 on: 2 Aug 2017, 04:28 pm »
Hello James,

what is now the top preamp in production? the new BP17 cubed or the BP26 with ext. power supply?

cheers

Hi Grant

The new BP-17 Cubed has a newer design based on the patent we got on the Cubed input section so I have high hopes that it will perform better overall.

It is also fully remote controlled.

james

Grant Hill

  • Jr. Member
  • Posts: 296
Re: Bryston BP17 Cubed preamplifier
« Reply #4 on: 2 Aug 2017, 06:00 pm »
Thank you James.

Does the B135cubed have the same patented preamp section of the BP17-3 or does it use the previous one?

James Tanner

  • Facilitator
  • Posts: 20665
  • The Demo is Everything!
    • http://www.bryston.com
Re: Bryston BP17 Cubed preamplifier
« Reply #5 on: 2 Aug 2017, 06:33 pm »
Thank you James.

Does the B135cubed have the same patented preamp section of the BP17-3 or does it use the previous one?

Same

james

PierreB

Re: Bryston BP17 Cubed preamplifier
« Reply #6 on: 2 Aug 2017, 06:52 pm »
Hi James,
Will there be a BP26-3 ???

James Tanner

  • Facilitator
  • Posts: 20665
  • The Demo is Everything!
    • http://www.bryston.com
Re: Bryston BP17 Cubed preamplifier
« Reply #7 on: 2 Aug 2017, 06:54 pm »
Hi James,
Will there be a BP26-3 ???

No - we are looking at doing a BP-26 combined with a BDA-3 as a preamp in the future.

james

OTM

  • Jr. Member
  • Posts: 115
Re: Bryston BP17 Cubed preamplifier
« Reply #8 on: 2 Aug 2017, 08:18 pm »
Edit

OTM

  • Jr. Member
  • Posts: 115
Re: Bryston BP17 Cubed preamplifier
« Reply #9 on: 2 Aug 2017, 08:22 pm »
No - we are looking at doing a BP-26 combined with a BDA-3 as a preamp in the future.

james

I would be interested in something like that.  Same size or 2RU?
David

James Tanner

  • Facilitator
  • Posts: 20665
  • The Demo is Everything!
    • http://www.bryston.com
Re: Bryston BP17 Cubed preamplifier
« Reply #10 on: 2 Aug 2017, 09:47 pm »
I would be interested in something like that.  Same size or 2RU?
David

Probably 2U with a 1U separate power supply = I want to include the active crossover for our speakers in it.

james

OTM

  • Jr. Member
  • Posts: 115
Re: Bryston BP17 Cubed preamplifier
« Reply #11 on: 3 Aug 2017, 01:52 am »
Probably 2U with a 1U separate power supply = I want to include the active crossover for our speakers in it.

james

Just keeps getting better
David

95Dyna

  • Full Member
  • Posts: 1180
Re: Bryston BP17 Cubed preamplifier
« Reply #12 on: 3 Aug 2017, 03:00 am »
Hi James,

Is the MM phono stage option the same as I have in my circa 2009 BP-26P?  If I were to upgrade to the BP-17 could I have it  reinstalled in the new BP-17?  Is there going to be a trade in incentive offered to the dealers to migrate from 26>17.  The fixed balanced output is a huge selling point for me.

Bill

Armaegis

  • Full Member
  • Posts: 860
  • slumming it between headphones and pro audio
Re: Bryston BP17 Cubed preamplifier
« Reply #13 on: 3 Aug 2017, 04:13 am »
Probably 2U with a 1U separate power supply = I want to include the active crossover for our speakers in it.

james


Would that be the MPS-2 power supply or a different one entirely?

zoom25

  • Full Member
  • Posts: 988
Re: Bryston BP17 Cubed preamplifier
« Reply #14 on: 3 Aug 2017, 05:26 am »
Probably 2U with a 1U separate power supply = I want to include the active crossover for our speakers in it.

james

Great to hear.  :thumb:

Some other questions/suggestions (a few which I might have said in the past?):

1) Will it be a modular design. I imagined something like a BP + BDA combo in its base form, with the option to add crossovers. Keeps the price lower for people who just want the DAC and Preamp.

2) Power supply - same question as others. MPS-2 or different.

3) A pair of FIXED balanced outputs in addition to the variable output(s).

4) Remote control (I think you already said this will have remote control).

5) Volume control of the hardware analog section via ethernet (I don't know if this is a no-no from a design standpoint or even possible). Imagine having control of BDP and BDA and BP section on the same Manic Moose page!

6) Balanced Analog inputs - I think this would improve the longevity of the unit.


Can't wait to see what you guys do with it!

Raimo

  • Jr. Member
  • Posts: 80
Re: Bryston BP17 Cubed preamplifier
« Reply #15 on: 3 Aug 2017, 06:30 am »
No - we are looking at doing a BP-26 combined with a BDA-3 as a preamp in the future.

james
Why not use the best circuit in your top of the line pre amp?

James Tanner

  • Facilitator
  • Posts: 20665
  • The Demo is Everything!
    • http://www.bryston.com
Re: Bryston BP17 Cubed preamplifier
« Reply #16 on: 3 Aug 2017, 09:59 am »
Hi James,

Is the MM phono stage option the same as I have in my circa 2009 BP-26P?  If I were to upgrade to the BP-17 could I have it  reinstalled in the new BP-17?  Is there going to be a trade in incentive offered to the dealers to migrate from 26>17.  The fixed balanced output is a huge selling point for me.

Bill
Hi Bill

No the new MM phono stages are different in the BP-17 cubed - it is based on the new 1/3rd size phono stages we just developed.  Trade ins would be up to the dealer.

james

James Tanner

  • Facilitator
  • Posts: 20665
  • The Demo is Everything!
    • http://www.bryston.com
Re: Bryston BP17 Cubed preamplifier
« Reply #17 on: 3 Aug 2017, 10:00 am »
Would that be the MPS-2 power supply or a different one entirely?

Hi

Different one entirely as it has to drive both an analog and a digital section.

james

James Tanner

  • Facilitator
  • Posts: 20665
  • The Demo is Everything!
    • http://www.bryston.com
Re: Bryston BP17 Cubed preamplifier
« Reply #18 on: 3 Aug 2017, 10:01 am »
Great to hear.  :thumb:

Some other questions/suggestions (a few which I might have said in the past?):

1) Will it be a modular design. I imagined something like a BP + BDA combo in its base form, with the option to add crossovers. Keeps the price lower for people who just want the DAC and Preamp.

2) Power supply - same question as others. MPS-2 or different.

3) A pair of FIXED balanced outputs in addition to the variable output(s).

4) Remote control (I think you already said this will have remote control).

5) Volume control of the hardware analog section via ethernet (I don't know if this is a no-no from a design standpoint or even possible). Imagine having control of BDP and BDA and BP section on the same Manic Moose page!

6) Balanced Analog inputs - I think this would improve the longevity of the unit.


Can't wait to see what you guys do with it!

All of the above.

james

James Tanner

  • Facilitator
  • Posts: 20665
  • The Demo is Everything!
    • http://www.bryston.com
Re: Bryston BP17 Cubed preamplifier
« Reply #19 on: 3 Aug 2017, 10:02 am »
Why not use the best circuit in your top of the line pre amp?

It will be the latest circuits.

james